Hello, Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! (just playing with ideas here) Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! Sometimes you have to support the buyer. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. Many do not search the net, they go directly to TS and search there for models. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. So here on CGt I could have just asked the buyer if he would be interested in that sort of deal. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. It's the artist that need to make a stand and simply take the short term loss from less traffic and exposure and join the marketplace that respects the artists. @limonadinis Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. Same for me, here. I think the CGT does an amazing job of bringing people together! We will rather stick with cgtrader and know our models are safe, although the issue with finding CG models on the site is a little problem, but as long as they stay honest well be supporting them rather than supporting a bunch of thiefs and if we need to up our prices then so be it. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. I guess CGTrader should send out advertising to the companies, but I'm sure they are doing/done it already. AFAIK buyers right to be refunded is protected by law. The site owners could also act on other various levels : Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. Been over 17 years with TS. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. How Can we get 94% of Royalty?? A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. Better for who? My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. I will very much want to peruse. As modeller and as salesman i am interested in earn money only. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. Regards, You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. Then someone from cgtrader decided that he likes 3dprinting sooo much. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Turbosquid has too many models It is all about customer reputation and perception. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. Sales dropped to almost nothing. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. It makes you blind and clueless to how a customer is actually using your product and how well it integrates in his business and future activities. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. Yes CGtrader is great! Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. The designers make a deal with each other and negotiate a percentage on the sales. What I saw after that was a 50 to 50 ration decrease on Ts and increase on my CGt account. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. TS management is by far the worst in history, they are great at Hostile take overs, yet bad at dealing with the realities of industry, i stopped all my affiliate links with TS and right now i'm sharing only the links for my products on CGT and Art station. In previous post the buyer mentioned he don't get reputation points for buying models? https://www.fiverr.com/pixel512/create-a-3d-model-shipping-container Animated Camel 3D Model 13. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. CGtrader better is : Design,User friendly,royalties etc all better . CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? This is from my own personal experience. Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. This is critical information (to me at least) in regard to evolution and overall development of the products and services you want to deliver. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. If you are a buyer you don't have a lot of time to find what you want especially if you are buying on behalf of your company. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. for someone that is a little more unique. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Same for me, here. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. Cgtrader cannot compare to certain 3d markets. Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? I will leave the items here to see if cg trader does manage to change things around over the next 12 months and if not will simply sell them on turbosquid. I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. Agree with every word. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . I like, CG Trader is ascent. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. (I forgot to put TS up). Spider-Man (Rig) for Maya Shaders is a new section that we recently added. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. Yes indeed! In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model 3D - TurboSquid 2034950 CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. TS is simply in decline getting worse and worse. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. High hopes for Cgtrader. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. As someone suggested most serious buyers will end up buying 100 bucks worth of models so putting down 1 Dollar isn't going to cause any trouble. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. Payment Method Change Method. CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . taken offline. my main income its still TS. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. Free models are posted for lots of different reasons, not just only to serve as an example to show of artist modeling skills/quality of work (sample data). Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. And at the same time, if they periodically do something here, try to add something new, then the TS, as long as I remember it, does not particularly try to become convenient (But at the same time it takes most of the profit !!!). Besides how about your right to fair trade? A customer coming in from outside can view stores, search inside a store or still search the global data base. Needed something better and found it at CGt. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? 5. I tried to edit the obj for him and renounced because of the bad quality, especially, UVs and material names that were impossible to edit, such as mat000_0571 and other flaws ; he also bought a model of a bad quality from TS but was offered a refund immediately even on a sunday ; he posted his experience on our forum ; needless to say that others members of this community won't consider, now, CGTrader as a top quality website), same with people starting everyday a new irrelevant thread on the forums just to take advantage of the reputation system, which was a good idea, but which was hijacked by some unscrupulous sellers. - Moderating some pointless threads opened by people using CGtrader as an advertising platform for their own website without even selling a single object here So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. Its great way to compete and fair . For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. i like the points system on cg trader . However, I will agree that sales here aren't as good as TS. TurboCrooks should be boycotted by artists since they are the one responsible for the situation! Cgtrader have more favorable royalty rates, compared to TurboSquid. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). captainmarlowe is right. It is the best RR in the world ! The biggest problem with TS is that it is a pyramid scheme if you have a diamond account you have a good chance of selling models but at the low levels you have no chance. I left all but . New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. Care to share your time machine? Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. Despite offering models much cheaper (obviously) here than at TSquid, the clients prefer to buy on TSquid. Cheap and free models are killing cgtrader. Better for who? There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. Personally I don' t see anything offending on human body, everyone has one but I respect that it could be offending to someone (especially kids) so it should be censured. Maybe they have a much deeper interaction with the clients? You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. A battle is going on right now, and some top sellers are going full #SquidClan with a custom deal from the Wisdoms: a 5-6 digit $ amount in instant cash now as an advance of a 2 year exclusivity deal, plus a boost of their royalties at the expense of all the other "non-top" sellers at Turbosquid that won't be getting any offer from Matt Wisdom. It takes way too long to put up any files. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) Every market needs time, every business needs it. I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. . See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. I tried to contact the buyer several times with no response. Please let us know if you have any feedback. 2. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. I don't think it's possible to have WORKING site with both 3d printing and classic models. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader [/quote] Doesn't seem so. If the assumption is correct that a client goes to TS by default as a reflective action, "huh, there's another site, didn't know that! A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. I like how there is no join up fee. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. I have to agree with Limonadinis on this without a good search engine function we loose many clients to Turbosquid. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. . ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) I remember that too! This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. I think arguments of differences in search are irrelevant when someone is looking for the same model to compare prices between the two biggest players. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. Gumroad. (e.g. Most people don't care a bit about all this. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. Advertising? It was the most unpleasant experience. A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. So it was sorted in your favor afterall? I have met a bunch of really good artists here that I have had the pleasure of working with. We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. The duality of 3D printing/CGmodels is a very complex marriage. I have been the victim repeatedly on TS. Has anyone tried selling 3D models on CGTrader? - Quora They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. So what's needed? Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. (2034950) 3D This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. Some may post their old stuff they just don't want to ask money for, consequentially it is also not representative of the work they currently do. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? Welcome to Eduvance Youtube Channel.Technology Leadership Program lecture series focuses on imparting knowledge to school students about new technologies lik. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. female rigged 3d model - TurboSquid See the reputation, see the response rate, realise the problem will be fixed. i think they both have there place . What makes Cg-trader better than Turbosquid? | CGTrader I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. If I run the same test on Turbosquid or The3DStudio, I get almost exclusively original characters. A few weeks later, my first 3d model was sold on TS, while I had to wait 4 or 5 months to get my first sales on CGT, And the sad thing is that those sales concerned only low-priced models. (I'm aware this involves many aspects) I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. If you have any questions about these. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. "google8":www.google.com, google10 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. My opinions have evoluted over the months. and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time.

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