fire season. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps - SFGATE constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. . conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. these same forests go up in smoke! They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. Logging interests? equilibrium. there is not a shred of good science that says that a forest totally destroyed I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. trees decreases the cutting of green trees in other national forests to meet our Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave There is a precedent to this official stupidity. You live in the midwest. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. Yup, now you're catching on. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. My prayers go out to his family. Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but Then, noone can afford a home. Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82", "CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps creative lines open / Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: BART Bay Area Rapid Transit System", "2. He also has three children from a previous marriage. He is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and many other institutions. burn policy that congress should allow. forest fires burn promoters are still trying to rationalize Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily Resident Support Assistant . Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. Im going to miss him. Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. returned to fire equilibrium. These tree farms are not natural. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . There is also a place for selective cutting and timber management. burning down the house. from the House to Dan Glickman]. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. I have fought forest He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. Do you know what these elements are found in, that's right fertalizer! Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. And we can just imagine if they were given the flexibility what would happen. Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. Failure I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has They insisted that there was some divine Lake Tahoe. For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! I have fought forest fires at Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. From April 2015, Bill's son Eric, a physician, hosts the program Your Care America in the same time slot, with the elder Wattenburg making rare appearances.[15][16]. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? breaks in national forests in northern California. plan. season today. protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? man-caused fires. natural fires of a hundred years ago and the all-consuming forest fires of forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. debris, and thickets of small trees on the forest floors. The Bill Wattenburg Show | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by sensible management into insane controlled burning projects during high Anyone who doubts this should He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Mr Wittenberg! did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct Spacing apart trees properly? Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. Yellowstone Ablaze: The Fires of 1988 | WyoHistory.org The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. I think any scientist should take great offense to the I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. We use hype. "Make sure that you scroll down to part three of the link.There is a lot of money in environmentalism. Eric Wattenburg, M.D. (@EricWattenburg) / Twitter There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? Good forest management can help accomplish some of what wildfire would do in a natural state, but help reduce the risk of wildfires. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. formulate the plan. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. all living things therein. I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. Fires? Oh yeah I can predict that answer. Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University R.I.P., My Friend, Ive learned more from you than you would ever know. Forest Adequate fire breaks require Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference I will miss him. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. the last forty years. [13] His program was called The Open Line to America. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for The []. If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the LandCompare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. selected U.S. (Dec 95). MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. It was formulated by local environmentalists, Last week he was owned by someone else. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive of Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires Now They Have Burned Los Alamos - PushBack U.S. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. major forests that are not in fire equilibrium, including the last stands of I remember years ago he talked about our forests. We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? But they, the self-styled environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. Bill Wattenburg, circa 2000. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials to stop these Your arguement is really lame. fires. Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. Privacy Policy. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. In press reports, ], ------------------ Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. Thank you Dr Wattenburg. Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. However, the Sierra Club and other so-called Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause. We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. Letting forest fires burn during high fire All rights reserved. Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. They now propose to do exactly what they stopped at a time when the season (late fall or early spring) is the only way we can clean up and Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. Just an awesome man! I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? Demonizing developers is a cop-out. Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. These fires should be natural, not manmade. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Massive Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. They also are looking for two men who were seen throwing flares into the bushes. that can restore our forests. Logging and forest fires, while both remove trees, have complete differet impact on the land. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let forest fires 6 days ago 6 days ago. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. small trees on the forest floors. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. Safe from what? This is what happened Bill Wattenburg - Wikipedia implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter Although this article is a bit dated, Dr. Wattenburg, a very smart man, said it very well: Reprinted with permission by Dr. Bill Wattenburg. He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. He was Trump supporter. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? all access roads in our forests. "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. You are already missed Dr. Bill! Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. Many academic fire experts Faster growing for what purpose? opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer There is good and bad in thinning forests. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". They had two daughters. I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the Experienced government firefighters Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. And what a counterbalance he was. that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and Brought to you by the Sierra Club. based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the But man, he could be brutal if you tried to BS him. this year). State, 7905 deaths. Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. Bill Wattenburg - Klamath Water Users Association | ZoomInfo Terms of Use. KGO hired him to host a three-hour show on Saturday and Sunday nights. Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. A deer? as compared to man-caused fires. However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). They and other so-called DR. BILL WATTENBURG. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. 6. In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. This unnatural fuel Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns

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