"We can appeal to common sense, demand respect for international law, and if that doesn't work, we can bomb," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Russian news agencies. Id still bet the Poles will be doing a lot of footwork on how to help the Ukrainians. Hope you dont mind but Ive sent your comment to HQ, should be worth a raise. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. We live and learn. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. Several Latvians were arrested when they returned from fighting in the Ukraine they had been on the Russian side! Ooops! Yeah easily mistaken for Japanese torpedo boats a few thousand miles off course. Russia has accused Kyiv of harbouring plans to retake the region by force, something Ukraine denies. Russian warships pass through English Channel - UK Defence Journal Push buttons. Syria is not a big news story for Putin. Russian warships have been spotted off the British coast. Rocks?' I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. That was due to the unusually large number of landing craft in the Baltic. That basically, means the UK has signalled that it is disengaging from effective land operations in a NATO context. I agree with your 10 year rule. Most of its armour is 25+ years old, its tube artillery is a similar age and is seriously out ranged by modern Russian systems and they have just announced a cut in numbers to about 75,000..! LOL Ivan you really are poster boy for Putin . Stand by to be surprised. There are only 4 sets available for the Type 45s taken off the Type 22 Batch 3s. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. Concussion will do too much damage. Douglas you are as delusional as can be in your explanation (Bidens fault) for why this is happening. Once there they re establish the picture. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. Ill also add American Democrats have a strong distaste for Putin starting roughly in early 2017 when US intelligence agencies determined Russia helped elect Trump. Thomas C. D'Arcy, encountered a formation of seven Chinese and Russian warships in the Bering Sea last month. Russian warships sail down British coastline | CNN This is a normal response to transiting warships from other nations., Russian amphibious assault flotilla to transit English Channel. "As I said, it has no equivalent in any country in the world. Russian warships in English Channel prompt UK Navy shadowing operation I pray it doesnt happen, but sheer negligence in thisRead more . Morning Spy. He urged Putin to take 'the path of diplomacy and dialogue to try to resolvedifferences there are peacefully' hours after the Biden administration said it would provide an additional $200 million in defensive military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression. It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. Thats what I was thinking, but invading Ukraine probably isnt allowed under international law. If a shooting war were to start, the Astutes would be at sea ready to start shooting, its what they are for, granted we dont have enough of them, a situation that wont be rectified until SSN(R) comes of the pipeline at the earliest. 'I am not ashamed to ask to help us with everything that is possible to avoid this war. Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. Royal Navy shadows nine Russian warships around the UK ", READ MORE: Russian doctors urge Putin to 'stop abusing' Alexei Navalny, Maintaining maritime situational awareness is a core task for #NATO Standing Maritime Groups, in close coordination with Allies. It looks like a scene from 1984. Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. He really wants to install a pro-Russian government in Kiev and to have independence for theRead more . (NATO will do nothing without US Support) Alternatively, NATO could station aircraft in Ukraine bordering countries and work with the Ukrainian AF to secure Ukraine airspace again daring Putin to attack NATO Aircraft. To what end? Also the Blockade the Atlantic Iceland gap. Trump kissed Putins behind in every way possible to the point he tried to break our democracy on the 6th of January, 2021. "I am sure that such a powerful weapon will allow us to reliably protect Russia from potential external threats and help ensure our country's national interests. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? Now over, the Russian ships heading for the Med, inc a cruiser. Still better than a 4.5 gun. Spain is sending warships to join Nato naval forces in the Mediterranean and the Black Sea, and Denmark also said it would send a frigate to the Baltic Sea. When the world is fully and singularly looking at that location. Lauren Lewis For Mailonline "By maintaining a visible and persistent presence, the Royal Navy ensures compliance with maritime law and deters malign activity to protect our nations interests. At least Ukraine is on a democratic pathway! means nothing until they are in the fleet, weve got more warships but the admiralty and the M.O.D cant see beyond their arrogance 5 more rivers given the thai navy upgrades to their batch 2 KRABI i.e a 76 otto melara rapid fire gun which was chosen ahead of the raytheon ram 116 system two extra 30mm cannon located aft of the bridge wings with the option of martlet sometime in the future otions to fit harpoon, these are real warships and we should do the same and designate them as corvettes or light frigates add 5 more warships to todays number of 19, then, 24 ships soundsRead more , reasonable place to forward base a t31 maybe. Ringfence it. The US Debt and How It Got So Big Updated December 30, 2021, https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-debt-and-how-it-got-so-big-3305778, i bet tyne sent shivers through the russian group. British warships escort Russian fleet through English Channel, Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCG. Royal Navy ship off Crimea sparks diplomatic row between Russia and UK The comments below have not been moderated, By There was the Orange revolution in Ukraine in 2004/5 that was the point that they started to orient themselves more with the West. Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. what about nato members bulgaria and romania? And I know the USA seems to have more fruit-cakes that believe these. Six Russian landing ships have sailed past Britain sparking speculation they are bound for an impending 'full-scale invasion' of Ukraine - as Kiev warns President Putin has 'nearly completed' the build-up of troops along the border. Apart from Qaswem Soleimmani. Too many journalists sit at their desks googling news instead of getting off their backsides. It is certainly andy reeves again! Exercise still underway, they go to the Med when its finished. Comms on a dived Astute very limited. Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week warned the United States that the hypersonic missiles would soon be close to NATO's shores. Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. @RoyalNavy ships @hms_tyne and @HMSDragon have escorted three Russian warships through the North Sea and English Channel as part of a unified response with allies. F35 will be able to carry 8 of these missiles internally. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. I meant a small number combat troops postured to help the Ukranians defend themselves. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russias Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts General Sir Nick Carter has said. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. Cheers dave , I think our boss were trying too make us look on the bright side I doubt if the Careers office would have stated that when we signed up, And yet, of all the capability gaps, this one worries the RN the least. If this new cold war turns into something nasty, our T45 should have something better than Harpoon to engage enemy ships. I am generally centrist and an issues rather than party man and had high hopes for Biden. As for the numbers unvaccinated, I know Putins trolls have been stoking that fire with conspiracy theories about the vaccines. NATOs multinational battlegroup in Bulgaria reached full operational capability on Wednesday. Russian warships seen acting unusually off Irish coast I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. "The crew conducted an exercise to repel the means of an air attack of a simulated enemy in the Norwegian Sea.". Dictators will at any cost hold onto power. The British destroyer visited the Ukrainian port of Odessa this week, where an agreement was signed for Britain to help upgrade Ukraine's navy. And in the Western Military District, a missile regiment armed with S-400 Triumf mobile, surface-to-air missile system conducted electronic launches at a range in Leningrad region. During the Cold War it became traditional to test the resolve of an incoming new American president with a manufactured crisis. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. The Russian strongman will be sending warships within Ireland's maritime economic zone - around 240km off the southwest cost of Ireland. Severn was also on patrol as the Vice-Admiral Kulakov sailed through the Channel. America last night warned the Kremlin of 'massive consequences' as its top diplomat flew to Europe for last-ditch talks aimed at averting war. It was purely a theoretical consideration . Missile attacks would take advantage of Ukraine's weaker anti-missile defences. Thanks for that. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. We should grant him that and make it a reality. But T31 isnt designed or intended to be a high end anti submarine Frigate, more a general purpose Frigate for more day to day operations ,anti piracy ect but capable enough to operate as part of a task group. Blocking the straits is a far cry than just a few drone attacks. Some operating virtually continuously for a couple of years or more on a return trip every month. TheRead more . The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned. The warship is feared to be loaded with 7,000mph hypersonic missiles with a range of over 600 miles. Also known as SPEAR capability 5. So the design probably dates back to the late 1960s / early 1970s, so getting a bit long in the tooth..! The Ukraininans particularly will give a good account of themselves. If I see him Ill ask. Russia plans to deploy KALIBR capability on all new design construction nuclear and non-nuclear submarines, corvettes, frigates, and larger surface ships. Unless we get fair warning and are able to build stuff in advance of a peer to peer conflict it wont matter, as it will be over too quickly. So is his agenda really totally different? And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. This is why US UKRead more . 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along with their supporting tugs and supply ships travelling in the English Channel, Celtic Sea and the West Coast of Scotland. I somehow doubt it. The politicians have finally realised that imposing cuts on manpower and platform numbers relentlessly for the last 70 years has led to a navy that is too small to fully fulfil its Gobal Britain role. Putin might be doing maskirovka. No they didnt. The ships - which included a . Nuclear centrifuge assembly plants. All it takes is for 1 to get through! Without listing specific equipment plans General Carter hinted long-range precision rockets, air defence missiles and surveillance drones would be brought into service. If it doesnt conform to the official line it gets spiked. The Russian ships' 'highly irregular' movements sparked Swedish authorities to deploy hundreds of troops and armoured vehicles to the island of Gotland. The seven Russian ships - two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships - were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. Protect their own borders through forward defence. Spot on Johnathan, nothing beats the smell of Cordite when doing a spread or up ladder SU shoot. Which could be read either way. Historical animosity towards the Russians. Supplying intel and light weapons will not change the outcome much , Russia will win regardless of the losses shell receive. NATO Aid to the Ukraine is not some knee jerk reaction to current events,there have been initiatives underway since independence in 1991,and especially since 2014,in the case of the UK under Operation Orbital. Will Stewart View our online Press Pack. Putin cannot afford a hot war even less than we can. Ireland tells Russia live-fire naval exercise is 'not welcome' The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. The Kremlin also deployed servicemen to Belarus this week, ostensibly for major military operations with the country, sparking fears in neighbouring Lithuania. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Russian corvette Boikiy (back) which was shadowed by HMS Lancaster, A sailor on board HMS Severn monitoring Russian patrol ship Vasily Bykov and in the background submarine Stary Oskol, The Russian corvette Boikiy (front) was followed by HMS Lancaster, Russian warship Vice-Admiral Kulakov which was shadowed by HMS Northumberland, Typhoon jets flying above the Russian warship Vice-Admiral Kulakov, Asailor on board HMS Northumberland monitors Boikiy, Russian warship threatensto ram the US Navys destroyer John S McCain, Royal Navy shadows NINE Russian warships stalking Britains coast in just two weeks, Putin's thugs close in on ravaged Ukrainian city with thousands fleeing as intense fighting rages, Partygate buster Sue Gray's son 'boasting about mum on campaign trail as he tries to unseat Boris Johnson', Suella Braverman vows to stop the boats with new law to crack down on migrants using human rights laws to stay in UK, Runaway mum Constance Marten was 'groomed' by evil Nigerian sect leader, Man 'naked and covered in blood' arrested before mum found 'murdered' at home as neighbours reveal hearing screams, Rishi Sunaks new bill to end the Channel migrant crisis is crucial for the Tories, Leicester 'explosion': Listen to massive 'sonic' boom that shook homes and rattled windows. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk,. 'The different scenarios for how exactly Russia might seek to persuade the West to meet its (security) demands by punishing Kyiv don't even necessarily include a land incursion,' he said. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. Actually, its an interesting point. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. Power stations. Clever move, and itll be Trumps fault the Russians invade on Bidens watch. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? The two Russian vessels in the video released Wednesday are the first the military has announced operating off Hawaii since the new year. Estimates of the numbers of new Russian troops moved closer to Ukraine vary from 60,000 to around 100,000, with a U.S. intelligence document suggesting that number could be ramped up to 175,000. do you have the recipie for this distillery? Romania, in particular, has sounded the alarm over Russian activities in the waterway, and has gone on a $10 billion spending spree since 2014, buying U.S. F-16s, rocket artillery and advanced. On western side it was concern that with the post Soviet economic collapse theyd end up in very dodgy countries hands. US truckers are heavily non vaccinated. I think you have hit the nail on the head. Looking to impress on Moscow the need for de-escalation, he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov decided yesterday 'it would be useful' to meet in person on Friday in Geneva. Sweden has also been reinforcing its forces on the island of Gotland in case the Russians attempt anything there. faster working shipyards would help. Which it now seems were there to pick up gear to take out of the Baltic, not across it. They can receive Comms 24/7 without having to come to PD, they do not surface to receive Comms, so no difference between a ship receiving an update or a SM. In comarison with previous pictures those ships are sailing well loaded. Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. It will take them at least a decade to begin to get off Putins apron strings. Officialssaid last week that Russia had deployed agents trained in sabotage and urban warfare to launch a 'false-flag' attack on proxy forces, providing the pretext for invasion. And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. I think youll find the Poles really ramping up, unlike us Brits who have more horses than tanks, the Poles have superannuated their winged hussars moumts and morphed onto modern MBTs. SMs dont spend a lot of time having needless conversations with their controlling authority. Is Harpoon totally ineffective against Russian ships or just a bit old? Biden is standing up to Putin in every way logical. You guys need more ships me thinks . Which begs the question why? Count on enhancing economic & financial cooperation. I note that you seen to have accepted my comments on the US border debacle. Regime change? Plus, RN experience has taught us we use helicopters in the littoral with Stingray, Martlet and Sea Venom, and hunter killer boats for larger warships. Iran if anything will be taking the opportunity to cause issues whilst US attention is firmly off the region. "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. Global Britain is an illusion. Russia's Baltic Fleet vessels theKorolev, Minsk and Kaliningrad were today sailing south past the UK followed by Northern Fleet warshipsOlenegorsky Gornyak, Pyotr Morgunov, and Georgii Pobedonosets which passed the Great Belt Bridge in Denmark on Monday. That would make a great movie but better to follow the money trail back to Russia and other foreign powers. Estonia is sending Javelin anti-armor missiles while Latvia and Lithuania are sending Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and related equipment, according to a Friday statement by the countries defense ministers. If allowed to go unchecked, this will only serve to embolden both Putin and Xi, so interesting times ahead for all of us. You underestimate the Russian bear at your peril! SAMs/ASMs/AAMs mostly new plus a handfull of big ticket items but the vast majority are just 40 year old designs with a new paint job and go faster stripes. The . 'Grateful for [US's] political & security support. Spot on post! NATO should have gripped the Balts, told them the purchasing would be led by Poland and created a unified equipped group of countries enjoying scale of purchasing. Turkey's Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said on Saturday that the death toll in Turkey from last month's massive earthquakes has to 45,968. Would tend to agree with you Graham, to what end does Putin need to invade Ukraine? All vessels travelling through the Bosphorus have to book passage where a Turkish pilot will board to insure safe passage, that includes men of war irrespective of nationality. See reply above. This alone would send a message and along with the news that an Ohio class arsenal boat is currently sunning of Cyprus when normally the whereabouts is secret says alot. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Well done RN. The US CSG in the med training with Italy and Spain no doubt this is positioned close by aswell. Russian warship with 'unstoppable' 7,000mph hypersonic missiles 'sails Like pieces on a chess board, I suppose not all of the movements need to make sense. It said Russia had deployed 36 Iskander launchers, weapons capable of hitting targets up to 700km away, near Ukraine and said the medium-range missiles that could be used to 'destroy vital objects'. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? . Iv said all along all the US has to do is move over a few B52s B1s and B2 to UK on a routine training mission. Why would Poles help Ukrainians? 'Dangerous moment': Russian naval buildup near Ukraine - POLITICO As they have plenty of gear around Ukraine already it makes sense that at least some of the 6 are bound for Tartus. Royal Navy warship @HMSPortland is tracking Russian guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov and accompanying tanker Kama as they sail in international waters close to the UK. 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This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Tommo dont get carried away with what the media put out. Land, they have plenty. A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S. Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and. There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. Going after the Ukraine neatly side steps the maritime flank to some extent. The Iranians are being bombed at will. Who is bombing the Iranians? the Poles keep shtum about their involvement, unlike the Balts who declare it openly. Russia seized and annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine in 2014 and considers areas around its coast to be Russian waters. You are just scapegoating Douglas. "Escorting the Russian task group alongside forces from our NATO allies has demonstrated the UKs commitment to the alliance and to maintaining maritime security. I doubt you can stand at all given the amount of hallucinogens you must be partaking. 'They discussed U.S. and international security and economic assistance to Ukraine, and the Secretary expressed appreciation for Ukraines continued calls for a diplomatic solution, stressing the need for Ukrainian unity in the face of the Russian threat,' Price said.

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